00:04:54 Pat: Hi Dawn you're on mute so crunch away 00:08:08 Grant Crawford: Could we use just q&a or jus Chat please. Last week trying to follow what was being demo'ed, the q&a screen, and the chat screen. 00:08:33 Dawn Palmer: Yui 00:08:41 Annette Cunningham: best bird since lockdown in NZ falcon flying over head and quite close 00:08:47 Dawn Palmer: Tui 00:09:05 Richard Hurt: Grey Warbler 00:09:15 Ben Ryan: Dark morph Fantail 00:09:19 Adrienne Mulqueen: my question is about location.,I have a walk I do every day....and it wants a new location every time. it says..this has been used before .....can I give it my own name? 00:09:34 Pamela Kemsley: i have a kingfisher that visits most days. it watches the ditch at the back of my section which has a bit of water in it. 00:09:34 Richard Schofield: Black-fronted Tern on the yard list 00:09:37 Don Geddes: Dead kingfisher beside garage. Oops! 00:09:39 Sue Odlin: Grey warbler 00:09:50 Sandra Morris: Nothing exciting lately- largely sparrows and blackbirds but lots of fantail on my riverside walks 00:10:42 Pamela Kemsley: i had a lot of waxeyes that are feeding on my grapevine. they come and go. How do i count them? 00:10:56 Abi Quinnell: Fantail and waxeyes 00:11:14 Adrienne Mulqueen: Buller albatross flying all afternoon in front of us in Otago harbour. 00:11:20 Pamela Kemsley: do i just count the most i see at one time so i don’t recount the same ones? 00:11:28 Sue Courtney: glorious day here in orewa. I have some godwits overwintering. Yay! 00:11:33 Hinrich Voges: long tailed cuckoo in Clevedon for first time 00:12:02 Viola Palmer: best bird a tui using the bird bath. 00:12:26 Geoffrey Foreman: 12 little black shags roosting in large eucalyptus tree across rive in garden at Gisborne 00:12:41 Paula Roberts: Mike's audio is still quite bad. It was not very good last time either. 00:12:53 Jim Knight: The quality of Mike's voice is very poor compared to the other guys....nothing personal :-) 00:12:55 Stuart Nicholson: much better 00:12:59 Paula Roberts: Yes. 00:13:12 Sandra Morris: all good can you hear you really well thanks 00:13:12 Richard Schofield: agree there's been very few pipits this year, though did hear one over the garden during the week 00:13:27 Rhys Burns: NIce interview on the radio this week Mike 00:14:23 Sue Courtney: Mike. can you post the link to the interview afterwards please. 00:16:51 Sue Courtney: you sound like you are underwater Mike 00:17:02 Stuart Nicholson: Mike: Your volume drops when you turn away :-( 00:25:51 Rhys Burns: Is there a topo map? 00:26:06 Grant Crawford: how accurate are those hot spot pins? Do they relate to the exact location like your personal pins? Or an anonymised 100mx100m square etc 00:27:43 Pat: The hotspots are just a carry over from eBird, they are not anything Atlas-specific. Because location is so important for the Atlas it is preferred that you enter your own location rather than a hotspot 00:28:03 Pat: Hi Rhys, topo map is not an option unfortunately 00:29:12 Grant Crawford: Sorry Pat, I would use my own exact location. I was wondering if the hotspots (which aren't mine), are they true locations, ie no privacy masking for non-admins? eg iNat allows obscuring location to non-admins. 00:30:21 Pat: They are true locations. No difference for eBird reviewers vs regular eBird users 00:32:02 Hinrich Voges: if your obs walk is there and back along same route, did you want us to record only one leg, both legs, or separate checklist for each leg? 00:35:15 Pat: Hi Hinrich - it is completely up to you. It may make sense to split it into two checklists sometimes but others you may just want to keep it as one. The only thing would be to keep the checklists to about 1km. If you are doing one checklists for there and back on the same route then try your best to avoid double-counting. 00:35:17 Dawn Palmer: no moulting choice? 00:35:40 Bruce McKinlay: Hi Dawn, 00:35:46 Bruce McKinlay: That would be in the comments 00:36:41 Pat: Not yet Dawn but may be something that could be incorporated in the future. For now (as Bruce said) add it in a comment under "details" for the species 00:36:53 Marie-Louise Ward: What about if birds observed have colour bands or flags? 00:37:10 Jim Knight: Does the observation date need changing? 00:38:14 Pat: Same thing, add in band details as a comment. Also report to the DOC banding office 00:39:59 Paula Roberts: Black billed gulls are pretty common where I am. Does the Atlas know what's common where in NX? 00:40:15 Kerry Borkin: Is there an automated feature we could click on to send record to banding office? 00:40:18 Sue Courtney: I still have South Black Backed Gull and Kelp Gull on my list. Are they the same? 00:40:20 Marie-Louise Ward: Do you add any dead birds you come across, such as on a beach patrol for example? 00:40:36 Maureen Thompson: how do I clear the screen as I don't want to submit it? 00:40:42 Pat: Hi Paula, yes different regions have different filters so if they are common where you are then they most likely wont be flagged 00:41:31 Pat: https://ebird.org/atlasnz/home 00:41:46 Nicole Swain: Later on can you show us how to change the place names on the app again. I managed to change it but it didn 00:41:50 Nicole Swain: 't save it 00:41:55 Stuart Nicholson: to clear you can delete the whole checklist once you are out of it 00:43:26 Pat: Hi Kerry - there is not automatic feature for reporting banding details. But this could be handy! 00:43:45 Kerry Borkin: might increase banding records 00:44:17 Paula Roberts: Can you enter shared checklists from the app 00:44:17 Steve Purdon: does sharing with two others increase the ffort hours? 00:44:26 Rhys Burns: Why do you have a personal and work account? 00:44:27 Jean Jack: I have found for sharing checklists the comments only come through in the email not in the checklist shared. think. 00:45:12 Stuart Nicholson: Efffort is based on number of observers? not sharing 00:45:30 Dawn Palmer: Can you show me again how to start the sharing process? 00:45:43 Dawn Palmer: oh, forget it I see 00:46:33 Bruce McKinlay: BirdsNZ promotes Regional Recorders to have a Region count for collecting up odd checklists 00:47:08 Pat: https://ebird.org/atlasnz/home 00:47:53 Pat: Bookmark that link and enter all your checklists through there until June 2024 00:48:45 Sue Courtney: what happens in july 2024? 00:49:17 Rebecca Bowater: where is the portal 00:49:31 Pat: We will go back to the regular NZ eBird portal (not the atlas specific one). But don't worry about that for about 4 years! 00:49:59 Sue Courtney: Is submitting old checklists useful, like my five minute bird counts from November? 00:50:14 Pat: Yes Sue definitely! 00:50:45 Sue Courtney: Great I will do that during any spare lockdown time haha 00:50:56 Pat: 5 minute bird counts are perfect examples of complete checklists 00:51:57 Pat: Great stuff! Approximately how many 5MBCs do you have? 00:52:14 Sue Courtney: Not sure. Will have to look at my spread sheet. 00:52:53 Sue Courtney: How do I pause the list I’m working on in the the portal to get to the manage screen. 00:53:45 Pat: The best way will be to open a new tab in your browser and leave the checklist open in on the other tab 00:54:20 Heather Rogers: so a zero is valuable data, thanks for clarifying this 00:54:40 Heather Rogers: also, dead birds don’t count, thanks for clarifying that 00:55:02 Pat: Great! Yes zero checklists are still good checklists 00:56:31 Paul Cuming: Can you retrospectively add images to checklists? 00:56:51 Pat: Hi Paul, yes you can! Dan is going to run through this very soon 00:56:57 David Price: Dead birds don't count? That's quite different from ABA rules where dead birds found in situ can/should be counted, and noted as dead. Please clarify. 00:57:48 Heather Rogers: how do you record beach check of dead birds? eg Muriwai 00:57:55 Marie-Louise Ward: Are your checklists (& photos) visible to everyone? 00:58:05 Nicole Swain: How do you make your check list visiable in the "recent visits" when exploring grid maps. I noticed mine from the other day isn't showing but other peoples ones completed after mine are showing. 00:58:08 Stuart Nicholson: Types of audio and video files accepted are limited I find. 00:59:09 Pat: Please do not count dead birds. eBird is currently only used for counting live birds. If you want to note dead birds then put it into your checklist comments 01:00:14 Pat: Yes your checklists and photos are available for everyone to see. There is an option for making them private but the default is for them to be public 01:01:28 Pat: Hi Nicole, the Atlas Effort Map sometimes takes up to 24 hours to update. After this your checklists should show up in the recent checklists 01:01:37 Grant Crawford: I created 1 complete checklist after last weeks session. However it doesn't show up on the NZ portal, it says I have 0. Does this mean I submitted it to the wrong portal? 01:01:38 Marie-Louise Ward: Do you still add a checklist if you have not had time to document all the birds present? 01:02:22 Kerry Borkin: Can you please let us know how to make them private (and can some be made private and some public)? 01:02:28 Heather Rogers: oh no dropping off 01:02:50 Richard Schofield: Photos have to show birds actually seen during the relevant count, not taken at another time? 01:02:54 Pat: Hi Grant, that is the most likely case. Is your checklist showing under the "submitted" section on your eBird app? 01:03:30 Nicole Swain: Hi Pat, i did it on the 7th. how ever i was going in to it to stry name the location 01:04:43 Grant Crawford: Hi Pat, fixed now. just changed portal. THanks 01:04:49 Maureen Thompson: I can't see where to set up the nz portal on my laptop. It was easy to do on my phone. 01:05:06 Sue Frostick: I have noticed that Silver Gull (Red billed) is now showing in the species list as well as Silver Gull. Sould we now use the red billed one? 01:06:15 Pat: Maureen - you don't need to change the portal on your laptop. You just need to go through the Atlas eBird Website (portal) https://ebird.org/atlasnz/home 01:06:37 Pat: Yes use red-billed gull if that is an option 01:08:31 Megan McBride: Gorgeous photographs 01:08:43 Pat: Good stuff :) Kerry. 01:09:18 Paul Cuming: Which Sacred Kingfisher should we use - there's two on my lists 01:09:19 Heather Rogers: How do you take audio? what programme do you use? Do you take a video with your camera? 01:09:45 Heather Rogers: Recommendation for how to capture audio please? 01:09:55 Sue Courtney: beautiful 01:11:23 Rhys Burns: How long should audio be? 01:11:49 Pat: As long as the kingfisher is Todiramphus sanctus then either one will be fine. You are possibly seeing the species and subspecies? 01:11:52 Stuart Nicholson: My iPhone 6 audio file is not compatible - how to change type? 01:12:54 Heather Rogers: Any App recommended for audio? 01:13:30 Sue Courtney: I want to know which app too. 01:14:01 Paul Cuming: Sacred Kingfisher and Sacred Kingfisher (New Zealand) are the options for me 01:14:39 NZ Bird Atlas: Highly recommend reading the help articles in the Help Centre 01:14:52 NZ Bird Atlas: That goes through different apps and audio file types 01:15:32 NZ Bird Atlas: Paul, Sacred Kingfisher is just fine, don’t worry too much as it is attributed to the NZ location 01:16:27 NZ Bird Atlas: Rhys, again the help centre’s great at going through audio guidelines including length 01:17:55 Bruce McKinlay: Thanks for that 01:18:07 Dawn Palmer: Thanks 01:18:21 Sue Courtney: I want to edit the name of a new location I put in. 01:18:55 Stuart Nicholson: on line 01:19:17 Sue Courtney: I put in a location. Made a typo. 01:19:55 Heather Rogers: In what circumstances should you click ‘no’ not a complete checklist? 01:21:42 Dawn Palmer: Is there an option for stating present, more than 1 but didn't get a full count, can hear but can't see... 01:21:42 Annette Cunningham: Ihave a submitted checklist on my phone I want to delete. I have found that list and gone into it but ca nnot see how to review/delete it? 01:23:45 Maureen Thompson: Very helpful thanks. 01:23:51 Stuart Nicholson: Manage my locations 01:24:06 Paula Roberts: Sorry I could not understand what next weeks session is going to be. Can you write it? 01:25:21 Nicole Swain: Hey i just noticed on my app my birds called the Grey warbler but on the same checklist on the computer it's Grey gerygone. Would this be why it's also not showing on the grid squares when i was exploring 01:25:34 Pat: Webinar 3 will be: Learn how your data will be used and why it matters. We’ll discuss the data validation process and how you can view and download data from the eBird website. 01:26:00 Sue Courtney: Editing location sounds very straightforward thank you. 01:26:51 Paula Roberts: Will you review at some point how to use ebird when you go to another country? 01:27:03 Grant Crawford: I tried a couple of walking checklists in the last week. I’m lucky to have plenty of natives and non-natives to record. My problem is I hear a lot of birds without sighting them, no problem with natives, but with the non-natives I don’t know if it’s sparrow, starling, chaffinch etc. As a result, I did not submit them as you guys were really hot about only doing complete checklists. I’m not deliberately excluding them; I just don’t know what they are and don’t want to guess. Based on Dan’s comments just now, should I still submit these, and if so, as complete or not complete? Do we have the ability to record “unknown”? 01:27:20 Paula Roberts: +`` 01:27:41 Nicole Swain: thanks, i thought if i did it on one it would carry onto the other. 01:28:18 Sandra Morris: Thanks for great session! 01:29:09 Adrienne Mulqueen: I’m realising that I don’t have an accurate overview of the eBird app and the NZbird atlas. I have been doing the checklists since last week on the eBird app. Do I need to go back and put them all into the NZatlas website. 01:29:19 Heather Rogers: Birds NZ webinar - a positive spin-off of the lockdown! 01:29:35 Pat: Hi Paula, if you want to eBIrd outside of New Zealand then change your portal on your app to "eBird". If you need instructions on this then please email us 01:30:25 Stuart Nicholson: In jump you only need to do a few letters e.g. sta pass 01:30:32 Paula Roberts: Thanks. 01:30:56 Pat: Hi Adrienne, I will get Dan to show you how to change the portal of checklists submitted to the wrong portal 01:31:02 nickob: Some thoughts on returning to start point on the same track, it affects time effort 01:31:44 David Price: Yes, how about an in and back out list. Record distance as only one way, right? 01:31:56 Stuart Nicholson: Under Pass sp you can put several in 1) … 2) … with what you saw & sort out at home 01:33:15 Pat: That is right David. Distance one way but time both ways. But don't get caught up worrying about this too much 01:33:28 Pat: Good on you Shelly! 01:33:50 Heather Rogers: mmm changing portal is hard - week! 01:34:12 Annette Cunningham: Thank you all. Very helpful! 01:34:16 Dawn Palmer: see you next week thank again 01:34:18 Stuart Nicholson: Time o drop off for my nap! ;-0 01:34:43 Pat: Yes it's much easier to submit to the Atlas portal in the first place! 01:34:55 Heather Rogers: Thank-you heaps! 01:34:58 Nicole Swain: Thank you : ) 01:35:05 Paul Cuming: thanks eBird team - good gained knowledge here. Paul, Tauranga 01:35:06 Pat: Great stuff thank you everyone. 01:35:07 Abi Quinnell: Thanks a lot, see you next week 01:35:17 Jim Knight: Thanks guys. 01:35:18 Richard Schofield: Thanks, everyone 01:35:24 Rhys Burns: Do you need to describe habitat? 01:35:24 Marie-Louise Ward: Thanks Guys 01:35:31 Joan Ruffell: Thanks from Joan 01:35:33 Steve Purdon: Thanks, guys. Great Photos Dan. 01:35:35 Adrienne Mulqueen: the portal is correct on my eBird app.....NZbird atlas. Does this mean it automatically goes through? 01:35:44 Grant Crawford: FOr a walking count, should we use a suburb as a location? or does it still require an exact address? 01:36:32 Joanna McVeagh: Can you please revisit (not necessarily now) how to merge locations and when you should do so. 01:38:18 Grant Crawford: I have an unsubmitted walking count on the app, the gps was on, and the trail is about 1km long. However it's not letting me submit the checklist until I specify a location. It has the gps track, so why ask, and if I have to enter a location, do I put the start, or the end 1km away etc? 01:40:34 Grant Crawford: ok thanks. Have used my home address where I started. I also updated it to passerines 01:40:38 Joanna McVeagh: Thanks everyone :>) 01:40:39 Nicole Swain: thnaks guys, enjoy your afternoon 01:40:47 Michelle Roper: Thanks! 01:40:51 Grant Crawford: cheers