00:02:24 Patrick: Good stuff Karin glad to hear you're enjoying them! 00:03:32 Sue Courtney: Hi from the most glorious autumn day in Orewa :-) 00:03:37 Patrick: Please remember everyone to please select panelists and attendees when using the chat function 00:04:25 Cheri Crosby: Tawharanui stunning too 00:04:25 Stuart Nicholson: Well, im here - we can start :-) 00:05:23 Mike: Hi Kathryn :-) 00:06:30 Christopher Leonard: You haven’t sorted your sound out yet Mike? 00:06:39 Cheri Crosby: one question from last week was asking for a good bird call/song site...was there a recommendation 00:08:18 Cheri Crosby: have tried NZ Bird but when I do search I don’t get anything 00:08:54 Mike: Cheri stay on after, and we will go to the site and show you 00:09:07 Cheri Crosby: thank you! 00:09:48 Mike: Just remind us too at the end please 00:10:02 Treff Barnett: The DOC 10 most common forest bird tutorial is good and excellent for testing yourself ... https://www.doc.govt.nz/globalassets/system/training-courses/bird-id/index.html#/ 00:10:10 Karen Baird: Can you add me to your circular I missed the last few cos Id dint get them. Notice has been just going to Chris.thanks 00:10:33 Karin Gouldstone: which end of town are you Mike? 00:10:36 Sue Courtney: Treff, I found that site great, but would like more birds. 00:10:37 Karen Baird: OK 00:10:47 Oscar Thomas: Parries are the guard dogs of the bird world. Had a tomtit here in North Dunedin recently which was pretty awesome. Hi all 00:11:16 Cheri Crosby: 2 Australasian Shoveler on estuary at Christian Bay for first time 00:11:26 heather rogers: A spotless crake at Waiatarua Reserve yesterday! 00:11:47 Stuart Nicholson: A friend reported a falcon eating a pigeon a nearby street - yet to do eBird entry - good photos supplied :-) 00:11:47 Sue Courtney: Twelve spoonbills dropped into Orewa Estuary this morning when I was doing a checklist. 00:12:02 Cheri Crosby: Banded Rail for first time as well at Christian Bay 00:12:06 heather rogers: Also, a pair of brown teal ! and the grey teal are using the nesting boxes - awesome! 00:12:34 Karen Baird: Had to rescue a trapped JOhn dory in the estuary when doing a check list this week. 00:12:35 Nicole Swain: Do the goldfinches and other finches move around the country. I have never really noticed them until this year on the hills above Lower Hutt. Now there's heaps of little flocks 00:12:50 Cheri Crosby: wow! awesome about Pateke!!! 00:12:52 Oscar Thomas: Where are you Stuart? it reverts back to all Panelists for me.. 00:13:13 Oscar Thomas: 👍 00:13:32 Kurien Yohannan: Where was the falcon seen? 00:13:56 Treff Barnett: Hi Sue, yes more like the DoC tutorial would be great, and we have seen your spoonbills in the Okura Estuary for the decade (on and off) 00:13:57 Cheri Crosby: pretty hard for anyone! 00:13:57 Stuart Nicholson: Oscar: Bruce Ave , Brooklyn Wgtn 00:14:06 Oscar Thomas: awesome stuff 00:15:35 Mike: 62 on at the moment Bruce 00:15:45 Bruce McKinlay: Cool 00:16:18 Mike: Really thank everyone joining us! 00:16:19 Ian McLean: Should we be recording dead seabirds on the NZ Bird Atlas, when we are doing beach patrols ? 00:17:07 Mike: Not at this stage Ian, these should go into the beach patrol scheme. We discussing dead birds with Cornell next week 00:18:29 Ian McLean: Cool, thanks for that Mike. We will atlas the live bird counts that we do whilst patrolling. 00:19:27 Mike: Perfect, ideally Ian, split into 1km sections is the gold standard! 00:20:29 Oscar Thomas: I believe the current standing is if it was alive when it was found it can be reported, but I don’t accept records of already dead beachwrecked birds per reviewer guidelines (there are quite a few on ebird despite that) 00:21:04 Karen Baird: Atlas portal doesn't appear in my drop down menu on the web site when I try to check I have got it right. I know when I did my first ones I hadn't changed the setting 00:21:33 Mike: That's my understanding too Oscar 00:21:58 Mike: Karen are you on ebird.org/atlasnz 00:22:28 Mike: Not the NZ eBird portal 00:22:48 Oscar Thomas: when does year two begin? I was away for the beginning of the atlas 00:23:07 Mike: effort map is at ebird.org/atlasnz/effortmap 00:23:09 Karen Baird: yes 00:23:23 Mike: June 1 2020 Oscar 00:23:24 heather rogers: Nocturnal = sunset to sunrise? 00:23:40 Mike: Discuss nocturnal later Heather 00:24:31 Karen Baird: When I go into Change portal only New Zealand ebird comes up is that right? 00:25:24 Mike: On the website Karen, th portal is basically the website you are on. So atlas is at ebird.org/atlasnz 00:25:32 Kirsten Olsen: how do we see which habitats that are surveyed in the grid squares 00:25:49 Karen Baird: Oh OK, it doest have a separate listing for NZ atlas. OK 00:25:49 Cheri Crosby: how many kms ? 00:26:04 Kirsten Olsen: so that we can survey the ones that are not surveyed 00:26:41 Mike: Yes you can survey any square, ones with or without data. 00:26:46 Oscar Thomas: wow a Great Frigatebird was seen near Tuhua/Mayor Island this morning! 00:26:59 Mike: We encourage people to go to new squares, and also ones will little data 00:28:09 Mike: If trip through gird square boundary, data assigned to square you started in. This a key reason we suggesting 1km travelling checklists 00:31:01 Mike: No, essentially the more data the better, but if you were planning a trip, targeting a square with less data would be better 00:32:11 Mike: A gird square is complete when all the habitats within that survey has been surveyed, and therefore all likely species recorded. This will be manually decided by the Atlas team, not automatically by eBird 00:32:28 Mike: Sorry, within that square, not survey 00:41:26 Mike: Jan is asking if anyone from Canterbury on webinar - Jan change who you ask to panelists and attendees 00:41:38 Oscar Thomas: how valuable is it, to increase nocturnal effort hours within a grid square, if when I went outside at night to listen specifically for ruru without any luck, to put ‘0’ in a checklist as the value? 00:42:26 Oscar Thomas: and there are no other species detected during the count.. as it has been at night here recently (except for possums!) 00:42:32 Mike: Yes, 100% Oscar, negative data important, and square will only be complete when a chunk of nocturnal hours ar done, even for zero birds 00:42:33 Jan Walker: Is anyone else from canterbury on here?? 00:43:01 Maureen Thompson: Maureen Thompson - just learning! chch 00:43:42 Jan Walker: Great, hi maureen, I thought you were in Auckland! 00:43:52 heather rogers: Does your phone could tell you when you have moved from one grid square and another? 00:44:08 Paul Cuming: Wishful thinking, but in the app when crossing square boundaries whilst doing a travelling count, I'd like a reminder on the cellphone! 00:44:17 Mike: No, but Soon Pat will show a useful tool 00:45:30 Mike: The gird is on the app, but only show when you go to submit data. So you can do that, and then return to your list. It a bit of a back door way, but Pat will show a better tool soon. 00:46:55 Mike: Garden bird survey data would be perfect atlas data! 00:47:01 Richard Schofield: Is there a way to target species that no-one has recorded for an Atlas square, compared to standard eBird, rather than just personal targets? 00:47:50 Mike: Not at this stage Richard, it is on our list for Cornell 00:48:08 Richard Schofield: Thanks! 00:48:18 Mike: Wendy, are you signed in to eBird? It shouldn't ask you this again 00:49:07 Sue Courtney: How do you find the grid square reference? 00:50:03 Mike: Sorry Sue, not sure what you mean here? 00:50:28 Sue Courtney: eg CB29. 00:50:35 Mike: OK Wendy, that will be it. You can request a new password 00:51:01 Mike: Simple way is to click on the square in the effort map 00:51:16 Mike: A pop up box with the square number will come up 00:51:37 Karin Gouldstone: are my ebird counts automatically go towards the atlas? 00:51:56 Jan Walker: If a species has been detected in a grid sq in a season by one person, is there any point going there yourself to confirm it? 00:52:14 Mike: As long as you submit them to the Atlas potal on the App, or website. 00:52:39 Sue Courtney: OK, got it. Thanks Mike.. 00:52:39 Mike: Jan, the more data from a square the better, so yes, repeated surveys are great. 00:52:58 Jan Walker: Why? It's a waste of time and of carbon emissions! 00:53:42 Ian McLean: Do you prefer that we go back each season to the same place or we are more random with a different place but same habitat type? 00:53:46 Rhys Burns: Are there standard terms for different habitat types? Otherwise the same habitat could be described by many different terms. Is the habitat type tagged to each submitted checklist? 00:54:07 Mike: Jan, as we will be using occupancy modelling to determine abundance, the repeated effort is better. We are doing more than a distribution map. Yes 100% agree that reducing carbon footprint of all is important too. 00:54:25 Mike: Did you join last weeks webinar Jan? 00:54:39 Mike: It went into explaining how the data will be used. 00:54:40 Bruce McKinlay: And they are a briliant resource so thanks Sam 00:55:00 Jan Walker: Ah no I forgot that one. What is occupancy modelling? 00:55:09 Catherine van Gessel: Nice work Sam! Epic maps. 00:55:35 Mike: Estimating numbers Rob, so your best estimate of the maximum number of birds at one time. I usually work this out by direction of calls and working it out. 00:56:02 Mike: Jan, I recommend watching last weeks webinar online, explains it well. 00:56:39 Steve Purdon: Why does Tranaki have an Old Maps folder? 00:56:42 Mike: Shelley, link on portal to maps 00:57:28 Jan Walker: OK, I was just wondering that if you hadn't seen saddleback on one of the islands and others had, why bother to duplicate the sightings when we know the birds were put there. 00:58:30 NZ Bird Atlas: Hi Steve, we’re looking at possibly updating all the maps soon to zoom in further on them. 00:59:23 Oscar Thomas: Just with that example Jan, birds put on islands don’t always establish and the more records there are, the better the picture is of if they are doing well or not so well 00:59:44 NZ Bird Atlas: Jan the more data the better, not only over the seasons but time - whether they increase in number and possibly expand their range from the initial translocation area 01:00:42 Annette Cunningham: How do you go from tbhis screen to the topo map? I didn't se how that happened. 01:01:16 NZ Bird Atlas: Hi Annette, this is Pat using the satellite imagery available and editing this as a jpg (picture file) 01:01:23 Kirsten Olsen: Is there a standardised list of habitats 01:01:28 NZ Bird Atlas: As he is showing now haha! 01:01:59 Jean Jack: Sorry I might have missed it but was there a dropdown list standardizing the habitat types/names of the habitat types people are targeting? 01:02:53 NZ Bird Atlas: Kirsten and Jean, there isn’t, we’ve left that open to Atlasers to gauge - and there is no need to be describing the habitat on every checklist either. 01:03:46 Oscar Thomas: the key with targeting different habitats is just to increase species diversity within the square correct? 01:03:57 Karen Baird: Thanks all, have to leave for a work meeting, will finish watching the webinar later 01:04:30 NZ Bird Atlas: Thanks Karen, the link will be made available soon after this 01:05:29 NZ Bird Atlas: Oscar, yes. So that we can meet that challenge which is to detect all the possible species within each grid square across all seasons. So, we know we’ll need to target certain areas to detect different species assemblages 01:08:13 Oscar Thomas: cheers, worked perfectly 01:09:55 Bruce McKinlay: The process for getting guru maps on to android requires more steps than for apple. 01:10:18 NZ Bird Atlas: Ah ok Bruce, we can possibly go through this/make a help article to run through these steps 01:10:22 Geoffrey Foreman: Guru maps says only available on the App store for iPhone and ipad - we have android phone 01:10:37 NZ Bird Atlas: Hi Geoff it is available for Android - Mike and Sam both have it 01:11:08 Bruce McKinlay: I've just been able to download it to a Samsung 01:11:13 NZ Bird Atlas: You can use the link via the portal 01:11:22 Bruce McKinlay: Thanks 01:14:55 Bruce McKinlay: I'll need guidance about how to down laod grid squares onto Android phone 01:15:18 NZ Bird Atlas: No worries we can create a help article for that - thanks for letting us know Bruce 01:15:51 Cheri Crosby: that’d be great 01:16:22 Patrick: It's like real-life Pokémon Go! 01:18:12 Rhys Burns: Has Dan changed his T-shirt over the past 4 weeks? 01:18:27 NZ Bird Atlas: Haha Rhys no I smell horrendous 01:20:17 Oscar Thomas: that was fantastic and super informative. Thanks very much guys 01:20:33 Bruce McKinlay: These have been great. 01:20:37 Bruce McKinlay: Lot sof tips 01:21:09 Maureen Thompson: Brilliant thanks 01:21:10 Oscar Thomas: Bruce and RRs, potential to have webinars similar to this in place of conference? 01:21:16 Jim Knight: Thanks for all your hard work, it's been great. 01:21:19 Adrienne Mulqueen: I just downloaded guru maps on my MotoG55 , no trouble from the play store. 01:21:21 Rhys Burns: It's been great - thanks heaps guys :) 01:21:21 Maree Johnstone: many thanks 01:21:28 Ian McLean: Can you advise the web address for Guru Maps ? 01:21:29 Bruce McKinlay: Possibly. 01:21:34 Catherine van Gessel: Thanks team! 01:21:37 Cheri Crosby: this is great and I think being able to watch again on YOU TUBE is excellent...have done that 2x 01:21:38 Annette Cunningham: Thanks very much for the four webinars. Been very well done, interesting and helpful. 01:21:51 Patrick: https://gurumaps.app/ 01:21:57 Paul Cuming: Good skills - great to get enthused again 01:22:05 Steve Purdon: Superb. Really useful and motivating to do more Atlassing. 01:22:15 Abi Quinnell: Thanks very much, really looking forward to getting out somewhere new and seeing more than jusst sparrows and starlings 01:22:18 Adrienne Mulqueen: today has been fantastic. now to go and play and try and sort it all out. 01:22:19 Richard Schofield: Well done - thanks! 01:22:22 heather rogers: Yes, awesome maps Sam 01:22:31 Megan McBride: Thanks so much - what will I do on a Friday afternoon now! Really appreciate all the knowledge shared. 01:22:32 Ian Armitage: Very many thanks to the WMIL team; fantastic effort from you all 01:22:37 heather rogers: Thanks for the webinars - really useful 01:22:39 Bruce McKinlay: Cool thanks guys 01:23:08 Geoffrey Foreman: Hi, we too are getting a lot of help from webinar, so thanks 01:23:16 Sue Courtney: This has been a greast series. Thank you all for your time. 01:23:23 Kirsten Olsen: thank you, for the seminars they have been really good 01:23:32 Kathryn Richards: been a friday highligh thanks so much 01:23:47 Nicole Swain: hopefully lots of 5-10min counts before or after we stand at dawn tomorrow : ) 01:23:55 heather rogers: So are RReps going to look at doing surveys of more remote places and invite other Birds NZ members? 01:24:27 heather rogers: Great holiday trips, once Covid-19 lockdowns gone away 01:25:19 Nicole Swain: whats a RR 01:25:35 Sue Courtney: Nicole. Great idea - a noctural pre stand-at-dawn count. 01:25:36 Nicole Swain: new to this : 0 01:25:37 heather rogers: Regional Rep for Birds NZ 01:25:38 Nicole Swain: : ) 01:25:39 Adrienne Mulqueen: thanks for the webinars. it has made my lockdown and opened up a whole new world. I have gone from having the app and not knowing how to use it to being reasonable on my way. Much to consolidate. 01:26:08 Ian McLean: Heather, that was our plan when we were going to have the Easter Weekend Field Trep to Motu Kaikoura. Unfortunately, due to the lockdown it was cancelled. 01:26:09 Kirsten Olsen: will the regional recorders be included? 01:26:29 Paul Cuming: Our region is poorly covered so far, so would need support as we have crushingly high zimmer frame/binocular ratio here in Tauranga!! 01:26:40 Oscar Thomas: New Zealand Birders on Facebook is a great one to get in touch with people, as well as the BirdingNZ.net forum as mentioned 01:26:52 Kathryn Richards: could there be a media release from you guys we could use in media on a local level to encourage atlasing and maybe there be a local event linked into this that people could go to use local bird nz group to help 01:27:04 heather rogers: It’s very different to twitching, thank goodness 01:27:18 Paul Cuming: cheers Mike!! 01:28:18 Rhys Burns: You could get an e-zimmer frame Paul 01:28:35 Paul Cuming: With GPS!! 01:29:10 Kathryn Richards: thanks mike looks like your missing the hairdresser...not 01:29:20 Jean Jack: Hi. Did you mention why the ebird.org/atlasnz doesn't allow you to zoom in to see the checklists... you seem to have to go to the ebird.org site 01:29:39 Cheri Crosby: is NZ birds online an app 01:29:40 Jean Jack: on the nz website 01:29:58 Sue Courtney: I can see the checklists thru AtlasNZ 01:30:09 Oscar Thomas: cheers all, time to go outside and get on atlasing! 01:31:17 Cheri Crosby: ok then it’s not an app...looks great and easy to use 01:31:48 Cheri Crosby: thank you !!, 01:32:31 Nicole Swain: i'm really keen to do more but struggling with the small bird sounds in the forest that are less common when theres a few and I can't see them, will these check list be incomplete or just give it my best shot? 01:32:43 Jean Jack: yes that's right 01:33:07 Sue Courtney: Nicole, that is my problem too. 01:33:17 Jean Jack: so you have to be in the atlas.org 01:33:32 Jean Jack: ah ok. thanks 01:33:43 Sue Courtney: The Doc Online Bird ID is good, but doesn’t have enough birds. 01:34:07 Jean Jack: ah yes sorry its 'ebird.org' 01:35:20 Mike: Yes Jean, ebird.org but remember to submit data in atlas 01:36:00 Sue Courtney: Cool. that’s good to know Dan. 01:36:05 Cheri Crosby: thank you all of you. look forward to any other info or webinars or newsletters that come out... 01:36:36 Nicole Swain: THANK YOU 01:37:18 Joanna McVeagh: Thanks guys - I've learned lots! 01:37:29 Jean Jack: Great thanks. Ma te wa 01:37:54 Sue Courtney: I have BirdNerd on my Apple, but again not enough calls to identify the cree, huit and schwee sounds. 01:39:24 Sue Courtney: The Merlin Bird ID on your phone, is that an app others can use? 01:39:28 Sara Treadgold: Thanks guys. Great webinar.